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by Nutteralex » Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:12 pm
I have to beat White Knight Chonicles before this comes out or else I'm going to be in quite the dilemma
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by EXTRA_LARGE_PIZZA » Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:21 pm
beyond excited pre ordered it for my ps3
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by thatguythere » Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:27 pm
i wanna slay dragons so bad.
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by YourXd43 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:23 pm
i put $40 on my preorder yesterday
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by gary from teen mom » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:25 pm
Nutteralex wrote:I have to beat White Knight Chonicles before this comes out or else I'm going to be in quite the dilemma
are you fucking kidding me haha?
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by Spider Jerusalem » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:26 pm
PERKS
Racial Abilities
- ORCS: Beserker
- REDGUARDS: Adrenaline Rush
- WOOD ELF: Resist poison, resisit disease, command animals
- NORD: Battlecry
- KHAJIIT: Night-eye, claw attacks
- IMPERIAL: Voice of the Emperor, find more coins when looting
- HIGH ELF: Regenerate Magicka more quickly
- DARK ELF: Ancestor's Wrath (surround self in fire), resist fire
- BRETON: Dragonskin (absorb spells), resist shock
- ARGONIANS: Histskin (regenerate health quickly), resist disease, breathe underwater
Note on racial stats: Each race starts off with different stats.
-Argonians start with 25 in Lockpicking, 20 in Pickpocketing, Sneak, etc…
-Orcs start with 25 in Heavy Armour, 20 in Enchanting, Smithing etc…
Perk Trees
Speech
- Buying and selling price 10% better (5 ranks)
- 10% price buying from opposite sex
- Invest in shops and increase available gold permanently in invested stores
- Master Trader – every merchant in world gains 1000 gold for bartering
- Buy and sell from any merchant regardless of what they normally buy and sell
- Intimidation attempts twice as successful
- Persuasion attempts more likely successful
Alchemy
- Potions 20% stronger (5 ranks)
- Potions for restore health, magicka or stamina are 25% more powerful (maybe ranked)
- Poisons 25% more effective (maybe ranked)
- Poisons last for twice as many hits
- Two ingredients are gathered from plants
- 50% resistance to all poisons
- All negative effects removed from potions and all positive removed from poisons
- 2 effects of an ingredient are revealed when testing it for the first time (instead of just one)
Illusion
- Dual casting overcharges effect for more powerful spell
- Cast Novice spells for 50% less magicka
- Cast Apprentice spells for 50% less magicka
- Cast Adept, Expert, Master etc spells for 50% less magicka (more levels this time around)
- Spells work on higher level animals
- Spells work on higher level people
- All spellcasting (from ANY school) is done silently
- Spells work on undead, daedra and automatons
- Fear spells work on higher level enemies
Conjuration
- Novice for 50% magicka etc (up to Master)
- Dual casting overcharges –> greater spell effect
- Bound weapons do more damage
- Bound weapons cast Soul Trap on target
- Bound weapons banish certain creatures
- Reanimate undead with 100 more health
- Summon 2 Atronachs or reanimated zombies
- Summon Atronachs at twice the distance
- Summoned Atronachs twice as strong
Destruction
- More damage for each school (fire, frost and shock) – ranked
- Novice for 50% magicka etc.
- Shock damage chance to disintegrate targets if their health is under 10%
- Frost damage chance to paralyse targets if health low
- Fire damage chance to make low health enemies flee
- Place runes 5x farther away
Restoration
- Healing spells also restore stamina
- Novice for 50% less magicka etc
- Healing spells do 50% more healing
- Recharging healing spells
- More is recharged with each hit with healing spells (unclear)
- Spells more effective against undead
- Once a day chance to autocast 250HP restoration when health drops low
- Magicka regenerates 25% faster
Alteration
- Novice for 50% less etc
- Alteration spells have greater duration (ranked)
- Absorb 30% magicka that hits you
Enchanting
- Enchants are 20% stronger (ranked)
- Enchanted armour 25% stronger
- "Soul gems provide extra magicka for recharging" – again, dodgy recording but that's what I heard, even if it doesn't make much sense
- Death blows to creatures but not people trap souls for weapon recharge
- Health, magicka and stamina enchants stronger
- Extra effect on already-enchanted weapon can be applied
- Shock, Frost and Fire enchants 25% stronger (individual perks for each element)
Heavy Armour
- Increase armour rating 20% (5 ranks)
- Unarmed attacks with heavy armour gauntlets – damage increased by gauntlets' armour rating
- Half fall damage if all in heavy armour
- Heavy armour weighs nothing and doesn't slow you at all
- Additional 25% armour if in matching set
- 25% armour bonus if all in heavy armour (not necessarily matching)
- 50% less stagger if all in heavy armour
- 10% damage reflected back to enemy if all in heavy armour
2-handed weapons
- 2h weapons do 20% more damage (5 ranks)
- Attacks with warhammers ignore 25% armour (ranked)
- Attacks with battleaxes do extra bleeding damage (ranked)
- Attacks with greatswords do extra critical damage (ranked)
- Power attacks cost 25% less stamina
- Standing power attacks do 25% bonus damage, chance to decapitate
- Sprinting power attacks do double (critical) damage
- Sideways power attacks hit all targets
- Backwards power attacks have 25% chance of paralysis
Archery
- Bows do 25% more damage
- Zoom in
- Zooming slows time
- 10% crit chance
- Move faster with drawn bow
- Recover twice as many arrows from dead bodies
- 50% chance of paralysing for few seconds
- Draw bow 30% faster
Sneak
- 20% harder to detect (ranked)
- Sneak attacks do 6x damage with 1h weapons
- Sneak attacks with bows do 3x damage
- Sneak attacks with daggers do 15x damage (end perk on skill tree)
- Noise from armour reduced 50%
- No longer activate pressure plates
- Sprinting while sneaking performs silent forward roll
- Running does not affect detection chance
- Crouching can make hostile enemies lose sight of you and search for a target
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by gary from teen mom » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:33 pm
i never use magic in rpg's when i dont have to, but with this game i will make it a point to become the greatest mage the world has ever seen.
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by Spider Jerusalem » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:35 pm
i have so many ideas for characters. i like that the sneak tree gives you an extra bonus for using daggers. i'm going to make a lizard assassin
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by Preparetobeletdown » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:35 pm
I've been bummed about money lately and just remembered that I have this completely paid off

I can't wait for November
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by 666pack » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:38 pm
i never played any of the elder scrolls but i have this pre ordered.....will i be able to pick it up ok?
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by school bus » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:39 pm
i'm not big on rpgs but this looks so good and i can't wait to play it.
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by Chris Berg » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:39 pm
gary from teen mom wrote:i never use magic in rpg's when i dont have to, but with this game i will make it a point to become the greatest mage the world has ever seen.
if you had your magic high in Oblivion it was so overpowered. i'm hoping it's pretty much the same in this. my mage had this huge cloud spell that took up the entire screen and killed everyone that touched it. all the time bandits would chase me and i'd cast it and kill like 3 or 4 things in the background i didn't even see.
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by gary from teen mom » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:40 pm
- Crouching can make hostile enemies lose sight of you and search for a target
ehhh...
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by xDeadHookerx » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:42 pm
Elder scrolls I had a sneaky Imperial that I went around killing everything with a bow and arrow. This time I'm thinking about making a super strong warrior type class that just rapes people with axes.
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by gary from teen mom » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:43 pm
Chris Berg wrote:gary from teen mom wrote:i never use magic in rpg's when i dont have to, but with this game i will make it a point to become the greatest mage the world has ever seen.
if you had your magic high in Oblivion it was so overpowered. i'm hoping it's pretty much the same in this. my mage had this huge cloud spell that took up the entire screen and killed everyone that touched it. all the time bandits would chase me and i'd cast it and kill like 3 or 4 things in the background i didn't even see.
i think i played through oblivion 100+ hours 3 times, i only used to bow and daggers. theres nothing better than sneaking and hitting something with a bow and watching the body crumble.
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by gary from teen mom » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:44 pm
YOU. LET ME SEE YOUR FACE.
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by Chris Berg » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:47 pm
gary from teen mom wrote:Chris Berg wrote:gary from teen mom wrote:i never use magic in rpg's when i dont have to, but with this game i will make it a point to become the greatest mage the world has ever seen.
if you had your magic high in Oblivion it was so overpowered. i'm hoping it's pretty much the same in this. my mage had this huge cloud spell that took up the entire screen and killed everyone that touched it. all the time bandits would chase me and i'd cast it and kill like 3 or 4 things in the background i didn't even see.
i think i played through oblivion 100+ hours 3 times, i only used to bow and daggers. theres nothing better than sneaking and hitting something with a bow and watching the body crumble.
that game is so fun. about 2 weeks ago i just played through the whole thing again. the voice acting in that game is so funny.
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by gary from teen mom » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:48 pm
Chris Berg wrote:gary from teen mom wrote:Chris Berg wrote:gary from teen mom wrote:i never use magic in rpg's when i dont have to, but with this game i will make it a point to become the greatest mage the world has ever seen.
if you had your magic high in Oblivion it was so overpowered. i'm hoping it's pretty much the same in this. my mage had this huge cloud spell that took up the entire screen and killed everyone that touched it. all the time bandits would chase me and i'd cast it and kill like 3 or 4 things in the background i didn't even see.
i think i played through oblivion 100+ hours 3 times, i only used to bow and daggers. theres nothing better than sneaking and hitting something with a bow and watching the body crumble.
that game is so fun. about 2 weeks ago i just played through the whole thing again. the voice acting in that game is so funny.
yeah i feel like it add's to its charm.
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by Up River » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:49 pm
What dost thou get as a bonus for preordering it?
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by gary from teen mom » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:50 pm
Gut.Glory.Despair wrote:What dost thou get as a bonus for preordering it?
theres a 150 version and a regular preorder. i think the 150 comes with a statue, cloth map and a guide for homos. the regular pre order comes with the cloth map.
i will hang it from my house like a flag.
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by Chaosknight19 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:51 pm
A premium map, not sure what it's made of, but I know for a fact it's not cloth.
Edit: The 150 version comes with an artbook, not a guide.
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by Spider Jerusalem » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:51 pm
Gut.Glory.Despair wrote:What dost thou get as a bonus for preordering it?
cross-platform horse armor
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by gary from teen mom » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:54 pm
Chaosknight19 wrote:A premium map, not sure what it's made of, but I know for a fact it's not cloth.
Edit: The 150 version comes with an artbook, not a guide.
they said it was "cloth like"
heres the 150 version
[resize]http://www.gamestop.com/gs/images/bonus/640362_CELG1.jpg,580[/resize]
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by Chaosknight19 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:55 pm
That's what all the stores said, but there was a post by Bethesda that said it wasn't cloth and that retailers were mistaken.
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by gary from teen mom » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:57 pm
Chaosknight19 wrote:That's what all the stores said, but there was a post by Bethesda that said it wasn't cloth and that retailers were mistaken.
-_- its prob paper
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by spookymulder » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:57 pm
Spider Jerusalem wrote:i have so many ideas for characters. i like that the sneak tree gives you an extra bonus for using daggers. i'm going to make a lizard assassin
Aghhhhh. Breton battlemage, Nord barbarian, and Argonian assassin are all going to happen.
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by Chaosknight19 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 3:59 pm
gary from teen mom wrote:Chaosknight19 wrote:That's what all the stores said, but there was a post by Bethesda that said it wasn't cloth and that retailers were mistaken.
-_- its prob paper
Update: We’ve received plenty of questions about the map. So you know, it’s a high-grade material that has a feel similar to burlap, and will be available in North America and European territories. There will be a regular paper map included in all copies of the game, but if you want to get the premium map, we recommend pre-ordering the game.
So that's from Bethesda themselves, and now I'm confused as to what it's gonna be like.
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by gary from teen mom » Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:02 pm
i must have both versions.
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by spanaway. » Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:32 pm
666pack wrote:i never played any of the elder scrolls but i have this pre ordered.....will i be able to pick it up ok?
The only thing that confused me when I started playing these games was the magic and spells type shit. That stuff still seems to me like its for more advanced players, so I'd probably just stick to the simple shit first. Other than that, its pretty easy to get the hang of. Id recommend a melee/strength based character for your first playthrough though.
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by HEATHENNATION » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:04 pm
ign released a comparison between this and dark souls. has anyone read it.
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by Tables » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:18 pm
gary from teen mom wrote:i must have both versions.

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by xStevenx » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:23 pm
HEATHENNATION wrote:ign released a comparison between this and dark souls. has anyone read it.
Yeah, both seem ice cold. If I had money and time I would probably play both all day and night. But it's probably a good thing I'm always busy and fucking broke so I don't get trapped in video game world.
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by EXTRA_LARGE_PIZZA » Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:16 pm
xStevenx wrote:HEATHENNATION wrote:ign released a comparison between this and dark souls. has anyone read it.
Yeah, both seem ice cold. If I had money and time I would probably play both all day and night. But it's probably a good thing I'm always busy and fucking broke so I don't get trapped in video game world.
it was a stupid argument
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by YourXd43 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:36 pm
EXTRA_LARGE_PIZZA wrote:xStevenx wrote:HEATHENNATION wrote:ign released a comparison between this and dark souls. has anyone read it.
Yeah, both seem ice cold. If I had money and time I would probably play both all day and night. But it's probably a good thing I'm always busy and fucking broke so I don't get trapped in video game world.
it was a stupid argument
it said dark souls was better because it had online and didnt have dlc. it was pretty stupid. Dark souls does look pretty awesome though
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by SkateAWS879 » Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:42 pm
i spent over 200 hours of my life on oblivion, this game is going to be the end of me...
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by charade you are! » Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:32 pm
Racial abilities still seem unbalanced. Redguard only getting only ability? I remember in Morrowind that redguard got tower key (lockpicking boost) in addition to adrenaline rush. Maybe I'm just partial to that race
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by xStevenx » Tue Sep 27, 2011 8:50 pm
YourXd43 wrote:EXTRA_LARGE_PIZZA wrote:xStevenx wrote:HEATHENNATION wrote:ign released a comparison between this and dark souls. has anyone read it.
Yeah, both seem ice cold. If I had money and time I would probably play both all day and night. But it's probably a good thing I'm always busy and fucking broke so I don't get trapped in video game world.
it was a stupid argument
it said dark souls was better because it had online and didnt have dlc. it was pretty stupid. Dark souls does look pretty awesome though
It talked a lot about how challenging it was though and that interested me.
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by HEATHENNATION » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:23 pm
xStevenx wrote:YourXd43 wrote:EXTRA_LARGE_PIZZA wrote:xStevenx wrote:HEATHENNATION wrote:ign released a comparison between this and dark souls. has anyone read it.
Yeah, both seem ice cold. If I had money and time I would probably play both all day and night. But it's probably a good thing I'm always busy and fucking broke so I don't get trapped in video game world.
it was a stupid argument
it said dark souls was better because it had online and didnt have dlc. it was pretty stupid. Dark souls does look pretty awesome though
It talked a lot about how challenging it was though and that interested me.
oh ok. im trying to decide if i should buy it launch day or wait because The Old Republic is going to take over my life.

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by Thomas_ » Tue Sep 27, 2011 9:33 pm
Going to take an oath of celebacy when this comes out, sorry penis.
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by Bramblesnap » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:01 pm
yes they added beards!
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by Czarsy » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:03 pm
Sick, I am definitely going to be an Argonian... as usual.
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by Nutteralex » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:03 pm
So retardedly excited especially after seeing that post above. I think the new leveling system is going to be amazing.
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by MANROD » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:13 pm
will probably be a nord by default. Must honor by blue eyed blonde haired ancestors through this game.

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by chainsmokingindian » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:28 pm
Fuck yes! So stoked for it. Already got the regular pre-order, but thinking of getting the $150 version.
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by pearse » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:35 pm
MANROD wrote:will probably be a nord by default. Must honor by blue eyed blonde haired ancestors through this game.

Gonna make another nasty as fuck Nord assassin again.
"Sanguin, dark brother"This game is going to take over my life. Still play Oblivion. Haven't even finished it either since I spend way too much time doing retarded shit and just adventuring around.
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by stereosonicsounds » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:37 pm
charade you are! wrote:Racial abilities still seem unbalanced. Redguard only getting only ability? I remember in Morrowind that redguard got tower key (lockpicking boost) in addition to adrenaline rush. Maybe I'm just partial to that race
Trust me, Redguards are powerful as fuck. Adrenaline Rush is like snorting speed and pulling out a chainsaw on the level 1 goblins in the sewers.
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by pearse » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:39 pm
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