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Postby FourtyFour » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:38 am

pata_negra wrote:your fave is problematic. the tattoo edition.


god damn it :smt042 :smt042
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Postby Booty Telegram » Thu Dec 07, 2017 10:54 am

sayword!! wrote:Yeah Steve Byrne just posted that someone who is a vet and actively involved in the military is the one behind it all.

Gotta support the troops.
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Postby theb00box » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:00 am

Shawn Patton pretty much listed almost everyone with that circle on his IG
Spoiler: show
Mike Shea
Bob Everence
Chuco Moreno
Ed Slocum
Jill Bonny
Erick Lynch
Stephanie Tamez
Dan Smith
Stewart Robson and Valerie Vargas
Chad Chesko
Tim Hendricks
Rose Hardy and Mike Rubendall
Noble
Scott Sylvia
Steve Byrne
Chris Garver
Nick Colella
Virgina Elwood
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Postby blackhawks#1 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:04 am

!azzip wrote:if it were me i'd just tell the dumbass that the dna was in there and pocket an extra $1k

hahaha. smrt
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Postby Booty Telegram » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:10 am

theb00box wrote:Shawn Patton pretty much listed almost everyone with that circle on his IG
Spoiler: show
Mike Shea
Bob Everence
Chuco Moreno
Ed Slocum
Jill Bonny
Erick Lynch
Stephanie Tamez
Dan Smith
Stewart Robson and Valerie Vargas
Chad Chesko
Tim Hendricks
Rose Hardy and Mike Rubendall
Noble
Scott Sylvia
Steve Byrne
Chris Garver
Nick Colella
Virgina Elwood

Add Mario Desa.
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Postby Lil Meatsauce » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:40 am

spsp wrote:i want a haunted tattoo
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Postby chrisND666 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 12:47 pm

ab0mination wrote:Going to reserve too much judgement until more info comes out, but if @FourtyFour is right—cool, hope they make a lot of money. But if there's outside investment or people that haven't been in the industry before they were born—yikes, that's some hypocrisy.

I come from an industry where people put out tons of content to teach others (blog posts, books, videos, tutorials, etc.)—usually for nothing other than to push their skills and share their knowledge with others. From (mostly) the outside looking in, it's such the opposite in tattooing, and that's always been off-putting to me.



because there is literally 0 reason for tattooers to do that. if they want to share their knowledge, they do so in private with their close friends. not everyone should be a tattooer, and unless you are - the ins and outs of tattooing don't pertain to you.
not everything should be public knowledge.
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Postby Que Sera Sera » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:34 pm

This stuff is so embarrassing and shows the real character of these tattooers. A tattooer in PA showed me the proposal email he received and all the financial stuff....it's a trip. I'm sure someone will post the financials soon
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Postby Lil Meatsauce » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:08 pm

i mean if i was presented with a pitch like "hey want to get in on the ground floor of this project and garver, sylvia, hendricks, vargas are already on board" in addition to whatever financial windfall might be attached it would be silly i think to just write it off.

the only thing thats lame for me is the presentation. this weve got this secret that were going to reveal in time....stay tuned tattoo public!!!
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Postby blackhawks#1 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:10 pm

Lil Meatsauce wrote:the only thing thats lame for me is the presentation. this weve got this secret that were going to reveal in time....stay tuned tattoo public!!!

cornball behavior for sure
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Postby chrisND666 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 2:41 pm

the whole shit is whack. just do your tattoos like you've been doing and stop trying to reinvent something that is perfectly fine.
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Postby ab0mination » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:26 pm

chrisND666 wrote:
ab0mination wrote:Going to reserve too much judgement until more info comes out, but if @FourtyFour is right—cool, hope they make a lot of money. But if there's outside investment or people that haven't been in the industry before they were born—yikes, that's some hypocrisy.

I come from an industry where people put out tons of content to teach others (blog posts, books, videos, tutorials, etc.)—usually for nothing other than to push their skills and share their knowledge with others. From (mostly) the outside looking in, it's such the opposite in tattooing, and that's always been off-putting to me.



because there is literally 0 reason for tattooers to do that. if they want to share their knowledge, they do so in private with their close friends. not everyone should be a tattooer, and unless you are - the ins and outs of tattooing don't pertain to you.
not everything should be public knowledge.


What reason is there for people in my industry to do it? Maybe you get the notice of some client or potential employer—but the audience very clearly is other skilled workers. I guess that qualifies as public knowledge?

Empowering people to be able to work in a field they love or are talented in is much cooler then acting like it's some higher-level of being, enlightened state to tattoo. It's not some special trade that exists in a vacuum. It's a hard job and you need to know how to properly do it to have a shot at doing it well. So should less people do it, or is it maybe better if it's easier to acquire that knowledge?

I get it, you're on the inside, and you feel like you've put the hard work in and travelled and been tattooed extensively and therefore deserve it more. I'm just saying, in my industry, those people are often the ones that turn around and share their knowledge and lessons with those that are interested—not look to immediately turn around and make it as hard for others to figure out or get an opportunity like they did.

Obviously if no tattooer wants to do this, that's their prerogative. But I think it's probably pressure cultivated the the cult-esque politics.
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Postby Heathenist » Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:37 pm

ab0mination wrote:
chrisND666 wrote:
ab0mination wrote:Going to reserve too much judgement until more info comes out, but if @FourtyFour is right—cool, hope they make a lot of money. But if there's outside investment or people that haven't been in the industry before they were born—yikes, that's some hypocrisy.

I come from an industry where people put out tons of content to teach others (blog posts, books, videos, tutorials, etc.)—usually for nothing other than to push their skills and share their knowledge with others. From (mostly) the outside looking in, it's such the opposite in tattooing, and that's always been off-putting to me.



because there is literally 0 reason for tattooers to do that. if they want to share their knowledge, they do so in private with their close friends. not everyone should be a tattooer, and unless you are - the ins and outs of tattooing don't pertain to you.
not everything should be public knowledge.


What reason is there for people in my industry to do it? Maybe you get the notice of some client or potential employer—but the audience very clearly is other skilled workers. I guess that qualifies as public knowledge?

Empowering people to be able to work in a field they love or are talented in is much cooler then acting like it's some higher-level of being, enlightened state to tattoo. It's not some special trade that exists in a vacuum. It's a hard job and you need to know how to properly do it to have a shot at doing it well. So should less people do it, or is it maybe better if it's easier to acquire that knowledge?

I get it, you're on the inside, and you feel like you've put the hard work in and travelled and been tattooed extensively and therefore deserve it more. I'm just saying, in my industry, those people are often the ones that turn around and share their knowledge and lessons with those that are interested—not look to immediately turn around and make it as hard for others to figure out or get an opportunity like they did.

Obviously if no tattooer wants to do this, that's their prerogative. But I think it's probably pressure cultivated the the cult-esque politics.


I think the concern stems from tattooers not wanting to flood the market with a bunch of scratchers who just try to learn tattooing from shit they learn online and then start tattooing all of their friends out of their kitchen for $20 a pop. That means less business to the professionals who actually know what they are doing. Not everything can be learned from youtube videos and the end result of a lot of people doing bad work because they took shortcuts has much bigger implications for the tattoo industry as a whole, vs something like learning how to code in python.
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Postby Lil Meatsauce » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:13 pm

the thing is "bad work" maybe not so much in application but rendering is in vogue. sean from texas is booked months in advance and scott sylvia is still available for walk ins most of the week.

why put in all those years learning the craft the "right way" when fuck it..have a good IG following and just start tatty blasting for Lolz and profit!!
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Postby ab0mination » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:21 pm

And I think that's probably the popular argument, and makes some sense, but I'm not really so sure.

I know someone with a booming hand-made furniture businesses that started because they watched videos and started tinkering with wood. Depending on his mood and the market, he does that and/or guts and renovates houses.

I also have hired out union-educated contractors who have done hack jobs on some renovation work.

My trainer has no science or medical qualifications and has healed my back better than years of medical professionals. Maybe this one is a slightly better example because he could in fact fuck my body up more than most of what's a risk in receiving a tattoo.

And to be clear I'm not proposing 'how to tattoo' videos on YouTube or 'DIY tattoo kits' on Amazon. I think there's probably a reasonable middle-ground.
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Postby ab0mination » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:27 pm

Also don't subscribe to the flood the market idea. That's a bit too Trump-building-the-wall for me. Tattoos are more popular than ever, and the market will support what it supports. Your favorite artist is still going to have a 2-month or however-long waitlist.

I think the more immediate effect is shops that do consistently garbage work start to no longer exist because there's better options.
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Postby sayword!! » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:34 pm

The goofiest thing IMO is the “we are going to change the world” motto with all this. They ain’t changing shit.
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Postby Pete Rose » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:54 pm

ab0mination wrote:
chrisND666 wrote:
ab0mination wrote:Going to reserve too much judgement until more info comes out, but if @FourtyFour is right—cool, hope they make a lot of money. But if there's outside investment or people that haven't been in the industry before they were born—yikes, that's some hypocrisy.

I come from an industry where people put out tons of content to teach others (blog posts, books, videos, tutorials, etc.)—usually for nothing other than to push their skills and share their knowledge with others. From (mostly) the outside looking in, it's such the opposite in tattooing, and that's always been off-putting to me.



because there is literally 0 reason for tattooers to do that. if they want to share their knowledge, they do so in private with their close friends. not everyone should be a tattooer, and unless you are - the ins and outs of tattooing don't pertain to you.
not everything should be public knowledge.


What reason is there for people in my industry to do it? Maybe you get the notice of some client or potential employer—but the audience very clearly is other skilled workers. I guess that qualifies as public knowledge?

Empowering people to be able to work in a field they love or are talented in is much cooler then acting like it's some higher-level of being, enlightened state to tattoo. It's not some special trade that exists in a vacuum. It's a hard job and you need to know how to properly do it to have a shot at doing it well. So should less people do it, or is it maybe better if it's easier to acquire that knowledge?

I get it, you're on the inside, and you feel like you've put the hard work in and travelled and been tattooed extensively and therefore deserve it more. I'm just saying, in my industry, those people are often the ones that turn around and share their knowledge and lessons with those that are interested—not look to immediately turn around and make it as hard for others to figure out or get an opportunity like they did.

Obviously if no tattooer wants to do this, that's their prerogative. But I think it's probably pressure cultivated the the cult-esque politics.


This does happen though, it’s just not broadcast over the internet.. I’ve been very fortunate throughout my almost 3 years of apprenticing that tattooers both in my shop and outside of my shop have helped me and given me advice on stuff ranging from technique to materials. Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
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Postby Pete Rose » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:57 pm

ab0mination wrote:Also don't subscribe to the flood the market idea. That's a bit too Trump-building-the-wall for me. Tattoos are more popular than ever, and the market will support what it supports. Your favorite artist is still going to have a 2-month or however-long waitlist.

I think the more immediate effect is shops that do consistently garbage work start to no longer exist because there's better options.


Garbage shops get work because the undercut the real professionals and the people that get tattooed by them convince themselves they look good because they realize they have to live with it the rest of their lives. And yeah, garbage shops might not last long (you’d really be surprised tho..) but as soon as one closes another one pops right up. And the tattooers in the middle who aren’t tattooing collectors all day but also aren’t giving tattoos away are the ones who get hurt.
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Postby tedz » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:13 pm

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Postby Worship » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:15 pm

get that shit out of here, we're arguing
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Postby spsp » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:17 pm

I just hate all the exaggerated marketing around this "product." COOL SELL ME SOMETHING PLEASE. Not to mention, just get a tattoo with ink. Normal ink. Who cares. Nobody has ever thought, "What if I could get my mom's DNA IN THE tattoo I'm getting to honor her?" I mean, so be it if that's what you want, but why is some random dude going to make thousands of dollars off this instead of the person you know... actually tattooing you? The tattooing revolution begins... NOW!
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Postby igotworms » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:25 pm

lmao

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Postby xpatx » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:41 pm

This whole add campaign is eerily similar to that shitty girl you went to highschooo with that is now plugging jamberry and Rodan & Fields skincare shit. “Just going out with my R&F Girls!! Check out these amaaaaazing products!”
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Postby c_floyd II » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:48 pm

igotworms wrote:lmao




Andrew is the fucking man
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Postby Heathenist » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:56 pm

xpatx wrote:This whole add campaign is eerily similar to that shitty girl you went to highschooo with that is now plugging jamberry and Rodan & Fields skincare shit. “Just going out with my R&F Girls!! Check out these amaaaaazing products!”


This is very accurate.
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Postby blackhawks#1 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:57 pm

igotworms wrote:lmao


I made it 18 seconds
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Postby martin life is war » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:06 pm

I don’t have anything intelligent to add, this shit is just sad.
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Postby ab0mination » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:06 pm

To poster Pete Rose, solid positions. I don't tattoo myself, but my sister-in-law does, as well as 3 friends from childhood. But admittedly I'm not entrenched, so I can't truly know.


Do know I don't want ashes, DNA, or anything but free-range, organic, grass-fed, cruelty free artisan pigments in my infinity sign tattoos.
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Postby FourtyFour » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:13 pm

So let me just add that the ingredients in your ink do in fact make a huge difference so to scoff it off like that is pretty silly. Pure pigment vs pre dispersed is a huge difference and who knows wtf this product will be.


With that being said, it comes down to a way to make money and it's just in really bad taste.
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Postby chrisND666 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:24 pm

all i know is i won't ever be adding anything to my pigment - ever. apparently here is the website for this bullshit, $300 for white or black ink, or $500 for both. this is completely ridiculous.

https://engraveink.com



Engrave Ink® is an original bottle of commemorative tattoo ink created from the ashes of your loved one as a celebration to their unique and wonderful life.

Our laboratory in Nevada, USA is one of the most innovative in the world. Our full-cycle sanitization and mixing process is secure and environmentally friendly, allowing for our personal attention to every step.
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Postby tedz » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:24 pm

shit's corny, MORE TAT PICS
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Postby theb00box » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:26 pm

lotta sad cat ladies are stoked
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Postby c_floyd II » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:27 pm

blackhawks#1 wrote:
igotworms wrote:lmao


I made it 18 seconds



You know its a parody video right?
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Postby ab0mination » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:29 pm

It was really light-hearted and mocking the campaign and food snobs, not tattooers, but hear you.

I actually had no idea (as opposed to vague idea now) about the pigment stuff until some artist I follow posted about being bummed that somebody that did small batches of colors they used was closing shop. Clicked around that instagram account a bit and it seemed like a ton of work. Just cool knowing it was someone in their basement slaving away on some premium product to find another hustle.

Do any well known tattooers use it or is it pretty niche at this point? Feel like I've only ever seen the same few brands around shops.
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Postby CVPTVIN PLVNXT » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:31 pm

Getting a tattoo in memory of your mom or something with her DNA is kinda funny cuz like you already share DNA. Also, I'm not sure your grandma, who already hates your tattoos, is gonna be stoked about her DNA in your tattoo. Silly idea but I doubt much will come of it.
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Postby Ancticipse » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:34 pm

CVPTVIN PLVNXT wrote:Getting a tattoo in memory of your mom or something with her DNA is kinda funny cuz like you already share DNA. Also, I'm not sure your grandma, who already hates your tattoos, is gonna be stoked about her DNA in your tattoo. Silly idea but I doubt much will come of it.

lol, there's too much to think of :D btw, i'm just thinking about getting a tatto and i'm here for ideas
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Postby chrisND666 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:36 pm

get a panther. or a skull
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Postby blackhawks#1 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 6:56 pm

funboi wrote:
blackhawks#1 wrote:
igotworms wrote:lmao


I made it 18 seconds



You know its a parody video right?

I definitely didn't know it was supposed to be funny
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Postby xpatx » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:10 pm

I wonder if any of these artists were screaming about those tattoo schools a few months ago.
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Postby fuckoffleatherjacket » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:32 pm

Andrew Mongenas in Chicago finished my stomach.
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Postby xpatx » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:49 pm

Who’s DNA you got in that thing?
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Postby sayword!! » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:53 pm

fuckoffleatherjacket wrote:Andrew Mongenas in Chicago finished my stomach.
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Damn that was you!? So tight. My homie just got his neck done by him pretty much solidifying me making an appointment with him. Can’t wait
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Postby JD » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:38 pm

CVPTVIN PLVNXT wrote:Getting a tattoo in memory of your mom or something with her DNA is kinda funny cuz like you already share DNA. Also, I'm not sure your grandma, who already hates your tattoos, is gonna be stoked about her DNA in your tattoo. Silly idea but I doubt much will come of it.


Wonder how you go about getting grannys DNA for in the first place?
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Postby Worship » Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:49 pm

i saw that panther belly progress tat too. nice
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Postby !azzip » Fri Dec 08, 2017 12:33 am

Engrave Ink gave me AIDS
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Postby Invisible Alex » Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:31 am

Finished my ribs yesterday with Ryan Halter. Shit hurts.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BcYtst1l7FT/?hl=en&taken-by=mrhalter
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Postby xpatx » Fri Dec 08, 2017 3:20 am

Rad piece!


Also, everyone involved keeps posting the same pic of Hendricks and Rubendall along with some cringey text about how they’re the two earliest individuals involved in this project? Jesus this is just getting lamer and lamer. Nick colella is the last guy I saw post it.
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Postby Booty Telegram » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:22 am

Heathenist wrote:
ab0mination wrote:
chrisND666 wrote:
ab0mination wrote:Going to reserve too much judgement until more info comes out, but if @FourtyFour is right—cool, hope they make a lot of money. But if there's outside investment or people that haven't been in the industry before they were born—yikes, that's some hypocrisy.

I come from an industry where people put out tons of content to teach others (blog posts, books, videos, tutorials, etc.)—usually for nothing other than to push their skills and share their knowledge with others. From (mostly) the outside looking in, it's such the opposite in tattooing, and that's always been off-putting to me.



because there is literally 0 reason for tattooers to do that. if they want to share their knowledge, they do so in private with their close friends. not everyone should be a tattooer, and unless you are - the ins and outs of tattooing don't pertain to you.
not everything should be public knowledge.


What reason is there for people in my industry to do it? Maybe you get the notice of some client or potential employer—but the audience very clearly is other skilled workers. I guess that qualifies as public knowledge?

Empowering people to be able to work in a field they love or are talented in is much cooler then acting like it's some higher-level of being, enlightened state to tattoo. It's not some special trade that exists in a vacuum. It's a hard job and you need to know how to properly do it to have a shot at doing it well. So should less people do it, or is it maybe better if it's easier to acquire that knowledge?

I get it, you're on the inside, and you feel like you've put the hard work in and travelled and been tattooed extensively and therefore deserve it more. I'm just saying, in my industry, those people are often the ones that turn around and share their knowledge and lessons with those that are interested—not look to immediately turn around and make it as hard for others to figure out or get an opportunity like they did.

Obviously if no tattooer wants to do this, that's their prerogative. But I think it's probably pressure cultivated the the cult-esque politics.


I think the concern stems from tattooers not wanting to flood the market with a bunch of scratchers who just try to learn tattooing from shit they learn online and then start tattooing all of their friends out of their kitchen for $20 a pop. That means less business to the professionals who actually know what they are doing. Not everything can be learned from youtube videos and the end result of a lot of people doing bad work because they took shortcuts has much bigger implications for the tattoo industry as a whole, vs something like learning how to code in python.

I very much doubt that's the reason. I've heard of established tattooers (not gonna name names) not wanting to share with other tattooers (so not just not putting it online for everyone to see) what brown they're using, for example.
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Postby Booty Telegram » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:42 am

Lil Meatsauce wrote:the thing is "bad work" maybe not so much in application but rendering is in vogue. sean from texas is booked months in advance and scott sylvia is still available for walk ins most of the week.

why put in all those years learning the craft the "right way" when fuck it..have a good IG following and just start tatty blasting for Lolz and profit!!

The others aren't doing what Sean From Texas is doing because they don't know how to do it, not because they feel some allegiance to the craft or whatever bullshit. That's like seeing some YouTuber that made it big and saying you could do that, too. Do it then. There's an art to all of that stuff, too. "Oh no, he's doing some weird drawings and disrespecting the craft while no one takes my awesome dagger through rose, dagger through skull, and dagger through rose AND skin flash pieces!" Yeah, it's super surprising that people would want something original and creative.

Worship was right.

Worship wrote:Would 100% rather get a seanfromtexas piece than a pharoahs horses or something

I prefer traditional over other styles, too, but people acting like this is somehow the RIGHT way to do it and everything else is wrong, is wack and annoying. It's one thing to prefer one style, it's quite another to be an elitist about it. (And just so you don't get me wrong, I'm not saying all traditional artists are like that. Far from it. For example, I've seen Alex Bage post how important it is to learn and respect all styles of tattooing, even though he's doing traditional now. So not everyone is so myopic about this.)
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