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Postby radiatedradiation » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:52 am

All of my friends and loved ones that have worked at restaurants have said they are pretty consistently sexist across the board. Touching, constantly making passes, insults, cringey jokes, etc.
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Postby 198d__ » Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:55 am

Yeah, I credit people who are able to work in food service long term. It totally sucks. Put me in a shop doing manual labor any day of the week over that.
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Postby taylorm » Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:38 am

Not to mention a shitload of people working in the restaurant industry fall somewhere between "full-blown alcoholic" and "high functioning drunk." It's pretty easy to see how the lines get blurred when such a significant chunk of the industry involves staying late to have drinks and going out with coworkers after you close.
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Postby lala fuck you » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:00 pm

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most of these people can also be found in call center jobs
I guess dealing with people like That makes you hate life

I have 2 friends on fb that work call center and they have done a fair amount of bitching
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Postby poontangclan » Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:49 pm

My wife worked in hospitality for years and she can attest to the disgusting sleazy bosses and the bullshit crazy rockstar Anthony Bourdain in the 80s attitude chefs have

mate

youre cooking a yummy fish, not pulling your company out of enemy fire, fuckin chill with the petulant baby routine

OH

also nearly every employer she's had would pay cash and well below award wages, turns out this is okay in the restaurant game
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Postby PaulKersey » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:15 pm

All these restaurant stories sound identical to what I've heard and witnessed as a waiter. I waited tables for 4 years at a catering hall. One of the maitre d's (who has been there forever and is still there) was particularly scummy. Between what I've personally witnessed and what I've heard from close friends and co-workers, the following I know to be fact because I either heard it myself or a trusted friend was involved:

-he showed porn to underage male employees on his computer
-stalked a high school girl home in his van
-told employees in mixed company (men and women) what he would like to do to women, which included chaining them up in his basement and starving them so that when he fucks them they cant fight back

All management and most cooks/kitchen staff at the place were pretty sketchy. Like people say, the rampant sexism, racism, etc. is pretty overwhelming.

Oh, and in a complete "MAGA/ build the wall" defense, one of the Mexican dishwashers is a registered sex offender for preying on underage girls, got deported, and then the geriatric owner of the catering hall loved her kitchen guys so much she finagled a way SOMEHOW to get him back into the country.
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Postby poontangclan » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:35 am

just heard Michael Buble christmas carols in the supermarket

he gives me the creeps big time

I reckon he's done all sorts of fucked shit
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Postby blackhawks#1 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 8:44 am

PaulKersey wrote:One of the maitre d's told employees in mixed company (men and women) what he would like to do to women, which included chaining them up in his basement and starving them so that when he fucks them they cant fight back

I'm pretty speechless which is rare so I'm trying to figure out how to word this...
What has been done about this? I know you're not going to tell me that someone would stalk a young girl and say something completely fucking insane like this and get away with it without someone in some position of power at least being told.
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Postby lala fuck you » Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:07 am

lol @ the snitches get stitches tattoo tweet
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Postby guttertech » Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:11 am

PaulKersey wrote:-told employees in mixed company (men and women) what he would like to do to women, which included chaining them up in his basement and starving them so that when he fucks them they cant fight back

Somebody might want to start checking missing persons reports in this guy's area.
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Postby blackhawks#1 » Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:12 am

guttertech wrote:
PaulKersey wrote:-told employees in mixed company (men and women) what he would like to do to women, which included chaining them up in his basement and starving them so that when he fucks them they cant fight back

Somebody might want to start checking missing persons reports in this guy's area.

Seriously!!
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Postby chugging_pus » Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:43 am

All I'm hearing so far "waaaaaahhhh my Vietnam veteran boss says dirty jokes and doesn't like Asian people or women and I think he's really really racist" who the fuck cares, start your own business and don't be a racist. I've worked in hotels for over 20 years, all sorts of freaks gravitate to it, myself included. If someone's being a piece of shit, call them on it. Don't whine like a bitch. Y'all sound like a bunch of appalled moms writing into Reader's Digest.

If you're over the age of 65-70 and you're Italian, you're probably fucking racist against everybody that's not Italian (and you may even hate other Italian cultures too). You probably hate like 99.7 percent of the worlds population, and talk shit about them all in your delicious pizza place when no one is around.

Moral of this response, the best pizza pies are made by racist men. I'm not even gonna touch your pizza until I know you hate.
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Postby lala fuck you » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:08 pm

Nope, try again
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Postby wegotdome » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:33 pm

chugging_pus wrote:All I'm hearing so far "waaaaaahhhh my Vietnam veteran boss says dirty jokes and doesn't like Asian people or women and I think he's really really racist" who the fuck cares, start your own business and don't be a racist. I've worked in hotels for over 20 years, all sorts of freaks gravitate to it, myself included. If someone's being a piece of shit, call them on it. Don't whine like a bitch. Y'all sound like a bunch of appalled moms writing into Reader's Digest.

If you're over the age of 65-70 and you're Italian, you're probably fucking racist against everybody that's not Italian (and you may even hate other Italian cultures too). You probably hate like 99.7 percent of the worlds population, and talk shit about them all in your delicious pizza place when no one is around.

Moral of this response, the best pizza pies are made by racist men. I'm not even gonna touch your pizza until I know you hate.


Did you even read this thread? Fuck you.
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Postby poontangclan » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:40 pm

chugging_pus wrote:Moral of this response, the best pizza pies are made by racist men. I'm not even gonna touch your pizza until I know you hate.



nah dude

young indian guys who have just arrived and are living in a sharehouse with 6 friends and work two other jobs make the best pizzas, or any food really
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Postby PaulKersey » Sun Dec 24, 2017 2:46 pm

blackhawks#1 wrote:
PaulKersey wrote:One of the maitre d's told employees in mixed company (men and women) what he would like to do to women, which included chaining them up in his basement and starving them so that when he fucks them they cant fight back

I'm pretty speechless which is rare so I'm trying to figure out how to word this...
What has been done about this? I know you're not going to tell me that someone would stalk a young girl and say something completely fucking insane like this and get away with it without someone in some position of power at least being told.


The comments hes made could probably be chalked up to "hes just talking shit" by most people, or the dreaded "locker room talk" defense, although I dont know what locker room on the planet would contain that kinda discussion and deem it "normal".

Everyone, including other people in power, know he says disgusting shit. I dont know if they know about the stalking part. Now that I'm talking about this again, it reminds me that I'm pretty sure some hush money had been doled out to the parents of a girl who worked there as well over an incident in which he had her alone in a room. She was definitely underage.
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Postby macho insecurity » Mon Dec 25, 2017 12:47 am

PaulKersey wrote:
blackhawks#1 wrote:
PaulKersey wrote:One of the maitre d's told employees in mixed company (men and women) what he would like to do to women, which included chaining them up in his basement and starving them so that when he fucks them they cant fight back

I'm pretty speechless which is rare so I'm trying to figure out how to word this...
What has been done about this? I know you're not going to tell me that someone would stalk a young girl and say something completely fucking insane like this and get away with it without someone in some position of power at least being told.


The comments hes made could probably be chalked up to "hes just talking shit" by most people, or the dreaded "locker room talk" defense, although I dont know what locker room on the planet would contain that kinda discussion and deem it "normal".

Everyone, including other people in power, know he says disgusting shit. I dont know if they know about the stalking part. Now that I'm talking about this again, it reminds me that I'm pretty sure some hush money had been doled out to the parents of a girl who worked there as well over an incident in which he had her alone in a room. She was definitely underage.

What a sick fuck. Dude needs to be canned or jailed.
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Postby poontangclan » Mon Dec 25, 2017 1:40 am

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Postby macho insecurity » Mon Dec 25, 2017 9:32 am

Oof and I actually liked Bublé. What a shitty thing to do.
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Postby SolidSnake2 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:30 pm

Guitarist for Patti Smith tried to pick up my mom after a show when she was 12. This musta been in 1975 or 76. I don't have an extensive knowledge of her work or career (I have Horses and it's the only thing I've heard from her), but Wikipedia tells me it'd probably be Lenny Kaye or Ivan Krall. She said his name, but don't remember.
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Postby SolidSnake2 » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:33 pm

Pretty sure Lenny Kaye. Fuck that motherfucker.
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Postby Thieves Dont » Mon Dec 25, 2017 5:51 pm

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Postby Que Sera Sera » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:08 pm

SolidSnake2 wrote:Pretty sure Lenny Kaye. Fuck that motherfucker.

I worked for Lenny for a bit and was unaware he was a shithead. Any particular stories?
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Postby Chute Boxe » Mon Dec 25, 2017 8:35 pm

radiatedradiation wrote:All of my friends and loved ones that have worked at restaurants have said they are pretty consistently sexist across the board. Touching, constantly making passes, insults, cringey jokes, etc.


Without a doubt. And it’s not common for a server and a cook to go from screaming at each other to 10 minutes later fucking in the walk in (well, not totally common, but often enough) kitchens are very male dominated workplaces and everyone (and I’m not innocent of this) has a HUGE fucking ego. All that passion for your work boils over because if you’re invested in this industry as a chef or cook, you fucking love it and you want to be the best at it. It’s not something you do long term and dislike it.


shithead wrote:Not to mention a shitload of people working in the restaurant industry fall somewhere between "full-blown alcoholic" and "high functioning drunk." It's pretty easy to see how the lines get blurred when such a significant chunk of the industry involves staying late to have drinks and going out with coworkers after you close.



Commercial kitchens have the highest amount of functional addicts and alcoholics over any other industry. I’ve done more coke at work during service then I have outside of work by a HUGE margin.
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Postby Booty Telegram » Tue Dec 26, 2017 6:04 am

Que Sera Sera wrote:
SolidSnake2 wrote:Pretty sure Lenny Kaye. Fuck that motherfucker.

I worked for Lenny for a bit and was unaware he was a shithead. Any particular stories?

He just gave a particular story :smt017
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Postby SolidSnake2 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:50 am

Yeah, he attempted to woo/cajole her into his vehicle. Unless he was severely fucked up at the time, a 12 year old doesn't look like a young woman or girl in her late teens. I dunno how she felt about it then, but she isn't scarred by it now or anything. Just that he is/was a dirtbag.
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Postby Cliffross_again » Tue Dec 26, 2017 5:01 pm

About kitchens.


I spent almost 15 years cooking professionally. Fine dining were some of the most drug fueled, horniest enviroments I've ever been in. Seen alot of dirty/sketchy shit. Dick grabbing was very common. Coke using during service. Fucking in walkins and staff bathrooms.....bars/table.

For the most part it seemed like give/take. But saw and called out shit thay was over the line. Glad times are changing though.

Left the industry. I work for a dutch christian family butcher shop. Love being a butcher/slaughterman but i'd deal with the wannabe rockstar chef over christian conservatives any day.
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Postby Luthor » Sat Dec 30, 2017 11:58 am

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Postby poontangclan » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:51 am

just read Russell Brand's book (I got it for 50c)

It reads like the diary of a serial rapist
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Postby judge smails » Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:28 am

pata_negra wrote:https://babe.net/2018/01/13/aziz-ansari-28355

Another male feminist? I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you!
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Postby ElectricWolfPit » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:47 am

https://www.boston.com/news/entertainment/2018/01/13/eliza-dushku-true-lies-abuse
The Eliza Dushku story is fucked. A stunt coordinator name Joel Kramer molested her, then she told an adult woman what happened. The adult woman confronted Kramer. Kramer was in charge of a stunt that day where something went wrong and she fell and broke her ribs.
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Postby macho insecurity » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:24 am

poontangclan wrote:just read Russell Brand's book (I got it for 50c)

It reads like the diary of a serial rapist

you still overpaid
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Postby PaulKersey » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:04 pm

Aziz is a fuckin scumbag for that. The fact that people actually say shit like "oh now they're scraping the bottom of the barrel for stories for the Me Too movement" is ridiculous. I'm seeing women refer to that story as just an embarrassing sex story. It's straight up abusive behavior.
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Postby blackapache » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:27 pm

An embarrassing sex story requires two consenting people having sex, not one dude trying to fuck someone who says no repeatedly. Fuck him.
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Postby shanks » Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:26 pm

The whole "claw thing" really sets it over the top. If you're on a first date, maybe try keeping your fingers out of the girl's mouth unless she asks for it specifically
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Postby blackapache » Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:09 pm

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Classic "I'm sorry that it happened" vs. actually apologizing for being a sex pest.
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Postby jaredfromsubway » Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:12 pm

Aziz comes off as one of those self-labeled nice guys after watching that one episode of Master of None, so I'm not surprised he is getting outed
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Postby judge smails » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:59 pm

blackapache wrote:Image

Classic "I'm sorry that it happened" vs. actually apologizing for being a sex pest.

Fuck Aziz. He pulled the “I’m sorry you got upset” card.
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Postby osully55 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:41 am

Whether Ansari didn’t notice Grace’s reticence or knowingly ignored it is impossible for her to say. “I know I was physically giving off cues that I wasn’t interested. I don’t think that was noticed at all, or if it was, it was ignored.”


It's obviously bad behavior, but come on. why didn't she explicitly say no, or better yet leave?
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Postby rowdiedondown » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:03 am

I wonder if The Claw made it in to his book Modern Romance?
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Postby rowdiedondown » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:04 am

osully55 wrote:
Whether Ansari didn’t notice Grace’s reticence or knowingly ignored it is impossible for her to say. “I know I was physically giving off cues that I wasn’t interested. I don’t think that was noticed at all, or if it was, it was ignored.”


It's obviously bad behavior, but come on. why didn't she explicitly say no, or better yet leave?


Did you read the full article? She explicitly states why, is why I ask
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Postby rowdiedondown » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:06 am

"upon further relfection" line in this non-apology/statement is very telling
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Postby blackapache » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:07 am

If it's obviously bad behavior how is she at fault in any way.
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Postby Chris M. » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:27 am

this is a really succinct review:

Jessica Valenti
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A lot of men will read that post about Aziz Ansari and see an everyday, reasonable sexual interaction. But part of what women are saying right now is that what the culture considers "normal" sexual encounters are not working for us, and oftentimes harmful.
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Postby Chris M. » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:28 am

and, this is just gross:
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainme ... ri/550541/


ETA: also, horribly written
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Postby Avoidance Learning » Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:30 am

read the headline, said 'nope' and x'd out. I'm good on that.
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