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Postby Fester » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:37 pm

Jason Voorhees could've been stopped prior to part 6 if someone simply had a gun. A shotgun would have ended him right away instead of the melee attacks on him



It was dumb of Alex Murphy to call Clarence "buddy" and "slime" given his dire situation. But I guess final words matter.


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Postby krujones » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:39 pm

Indiana Jones is irrelevant to the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark
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Postby Pro High Fiver » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:55 pm

David Duchovny and Patricia Heaton had more than enough time to get off their chairs before Beethoven took them for a ride down the block.
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Postby Metalfaced_DOOM » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:10 pm

Jimmy had just as much involvement as Tommy in the killing of billy batts, yet, didn’t get whacked
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Postby b andrus » Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:15 pm

krujones wrote:Indiana Jones is irrelevant to the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark


i was ready to fight this and thought it out.... you are damn right!
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Postby osully55 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:19 pm

krujones wrote:Indiana Jones is irrelevant to the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark

he literally found the ark for them. the nazis were searching in the wrong place
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Postby b andrus » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:28 pm

osully55 wrote:
krujones wrote:Indiana Jones is irrelevant to the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark

he literally found the ark for them. the nazis were searching in the wrong place



Because he had the medallion.. if there was no Jones they would have had it and found it
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Postby Apex Satanist » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:36 pm

gas powered jeep could have picked Dr. Grant and everyone else right after some of the systems shut off
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Postby osully55 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:44 pm

FACEPALM wrote:
osully55 wrote:
krujones wrote:Indiana Jones is irrelevant to the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark

he literally found the ark for them. the nazis were searching in the wrong place



Because he had the medallion.. if there was no Jones they would have had it and found it

that doesn't mean they would have gotten the medallion. marion was like inches away from getting her face burned off and didn't say where it was.
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Postby CeaseAndPersist » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:11 pm

Metalfaced_DOOM wrote:Jimmy had just as much involvement as Tommy in the killing of billy batts, yet, didn’t get whacked


That part was just made up for the movie. In real life he lost one of his rackets when he went to prison - when he tried taking it back over after his release he was murdered because he became a nuisance. Tommy got whacked because he was responsible for $250k that went missing from the Lufthansa heist and was sleeping with an FBi informant.
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Postby RouletteSyndrome » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:10 pm

John Rambo only kills one person in First Blood and does so indirectly.
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Postby krujones » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:37 pm

osully55 wrote:
FACEPALM wrote:
osully55 wrote:
krujones wrote:Indiana Jones is irrelevant to the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark

he literally found the ark for them. the nazis were searching in the wrong place



Because he had the medallion.. if there was no Jones they would have had it and found it

that doesn't mean they would have gotten the medallion. marion was like inches away from getting her face burned off and didn't say where it was.


Admit it man. Indiana Jones played no part in the outcome of that movie
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Postby brenton » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:47 pm

Apex Satanist wrote:gas powered jeep could have picked Dr. Grant and everyone else right after some of the systems shut off



Everyone was already holding onto their butts, Ray Arnold is irrelevant to the plot of Jurassic Park
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Postby B u g s » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:52 pm

They didn't even ATTEMPT to CGI Arnold's arm out of the shot in Terminator 2 when the T-1000 pushes it into the cog and he rips it off.
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Postby Alex 2K » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:39 pm

THIS IS A GOOD THREAD
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Postby Alex 2K » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:46 pm

B u g s wrote:They didn't even ATTEMPT to CGI Arnold's arm out of the shot in Terminator 2 when the T-1000 pushes it into the cog and he rips it off.

This is a movie making gaff more than an actual in world revelation. Still funny though.
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Postby taylorm » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:49 pm

Greedo shot Durst.
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Postby Alex 2K » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:57 pm

fuck you
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Postby Alex 2K » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:57 pm

jk




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Postby Latenightloser » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:36 pm

In the opening scene of Dodgeball, Vince Vaughn receives two messages on his answering machine.

First, is the gas/power company trying to reach him, but the woman leaving the message said they were having trouble because his phone was disconnected. What? if his phone was disconnected, how was she able to leave him a message?

Two, a video store clerk leaves a message about overdue movies - a handful of porno flicks with dubious titles and a romcom. They were all rented on DVD format when he obviously only had a VCR as shown in the opening scene.

Two plot holes that ruin an otherwise cinematic masterpiece.
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Postby Fester » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:38 pm

Dodgeball is great movie
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Postby antipasto » Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:53 pm

In the hit classic I, Robot, starring Will Smith, there's a scene where he drops his gun, and as it falls, it hits a solid bar, and the strap somehow becomes connected to the bar and the gun hangs from it. It's completely impossible and when I first saw the movie when I was like 12 it really bothered me
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Postby macho insecurity » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:06 am

krujones wrote:
osully55 wrote:
FACEPALM wrote:
osully55 wrote:
krujones wrote:Indiana Jones is irrelevant to the plot of Raiders of the Lost Ark

he literally found the ark for them. the nazis were searching in the wrong place



Because he had the medallion.. if there was no Jones they would have had it and found it

that doesn't mean they would have gotten the medallion. marion was like inches away from getting her face burned off and didn't say where it was.


Admit it man. Indiana Jones played no part in the outcome of that movie

this is fucking me up. i'm personally with Andy in the "pro-Indiana Jones is a sex god" camp. he's integral to every plot.
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Postby krujones » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:09 am

Imagine if Indy had never gone on this Raiders adventure. The Nazis would have gone to Marion's bar and taken the medallion , they probably would have killed Indy's defiant ex. It seems saving the self-destructive Marion is the only difference Indy really made, aside from ultimately handing the Ark over the U.S. government, which stores it away in an ominous and massive chamber of secrets.
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Postby Fester » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:17 am

That moment when the angel turns black and that nazi bitch screams is kinda intense. Used to feel anxious about that part as a kid....like "oh shit, don't look at it - keep my eyes shutttt!"
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Postby blue velvet pinball » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:24 am

Fester wrote:That moment when the angel turns black and that nazi bitch screams is kinda intense. Used to feel anxious about that part as a kid....like "oh shit, don't look at it - keep my eyes shutttt!"


the brevity of that moment makes it more unnerving. just a quick boo before the slaughter. i love that shit.
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Postby blue velvet pinball » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:30 am

and it's true about indiana jones being mostly irrelevent to the sequence of events. that's kinda why i like his character. he's quite bumbling for an action hero.
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Postby Fester » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:31 am

Yeah it has really good build up


"It's buuuuutiful"....then dun dun dun dun sudden nazi death :fiesta_bailando
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Postby Fester » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:33 am

It's like looking at something on a shelf and it just falls off before you can catch it and you scream like a little girl
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Postby Fester » Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:40 am

Hahaha I wonder how long he was standing there like that. Also cool that instead of mourning the loss...everyone celebrated
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Postby Stormy » Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:19 am

The Warriors - when that annoying skinny punk shoots Sirus and then yells "It was the Warriors!", all they had to do was grab the punk, show he had a gun and beat him to death on the spot.

But then there wouldn't be the awesome movie that follows.
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Postby Cam Evad » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:24 pm

krujones wrote:Imagine if Indy had never gone on this Raiders adventure. The Nazis would have gone to Marion's bar and taken the medallion , they probably would have killed Indy's defiant ex. It seems saving the self-destructive Marion is the only difference Indy really made, aside from ultimately handing the Ark over the U.S. government, which stores it away in an ominous and massive chamber of secrets.



Y'all are confusing the MacGuffin (The Ark), and the plot it sets into motion, with what is important about the movie: A story about, and the characterization of, the adventuring archeologist, Indiana Jones. It is irrelevant whether or not the end result of The Ark would've have been the same with or without Indy.
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Postby krujones » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:27 pm

You can say that it's about Indiana himself which is fine but the fact is that the plot of that movie is completely irrelevant to him being in it
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Postby Cam Evad » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:28 pm

That is generally how Macguffins work. I don't disagree with you really, I just think it isn't important.
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Postby taylorm » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:30 pm

Stormy wrote:The Warriors - when that annoying skinny punk shoots Sirus and then yells "It was the Warriors!", all they had to do was grab the punk, show he had a gun and beat him to death on the spot.

But then there wouldn't be the awesome movie that follows.

To be fair, there was a lot of chaos. Cops showing up, people hauling ass out of there, Sirus shot. Not a lot of time to stop, think and react.
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Postby Fester » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:30 pm

I dunno, man. Do people wanna watch a movie about Nazis on a treasure hunt without some opposition?
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Postby Cam Evad » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:35 pm

Fester wrote:I dunno, man. Do people wanna watch a movie about Nazis on a treasure hunt without some opposition?


Exactly.
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Postby krujones » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:37 pm

Not at all. Don't take that as me not liking the movie. I love Indiana Jones. I just find it funny how that works out
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Postby Fester » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:40 pm

Yeah, I know. It would just be a dull movie about creepy people otherwise. Haha
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Postby Fester » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:42 pm

Germans creep me out.
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Postby HOTDOGS_COMINURWAY » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:47 pm

taylorm wrote:
Stormy wrote:The Warriors - when that annoying skinny punk shoots Sirus and then yells "It was the Warriors!", all they had to do was grab the punk, show he had a gun and beat him to death on the spot.

But then there wouldn't be the awesome movie that follows.

To be fair, there was a lot of chaos. Cops showing up, people hauling ass out of there, Sirus shot. Not a lot of time to stop, think and react.



It always bother me that nobody close to him saw him definitely shoot Sirus and handle him right then and there
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Postby Frederik » Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:51 pm

Grandpa Joe from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was a deadbeat who was definitely scamming the system.
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Postby taylorm » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:05 pm

Night Of The Living Dead.

Why not just barricade the stairs leading to the second floor, barricade the door leading into the room you're in and then climb out onto the rooftop until help arrives? You're telling me the living dead will a) navigate a flight of stairs b) throw the furniture and shit you've blocked their passage with c) break through the barricaded door and d) squeeze their way through the windowsill? And then NOT stumble off the narrow roof IF they even manage to make it that far? I get not thinking straight in times of crisis, but holy shit. Some of them didn't think twice about barricading themselves in a basement. Why not barricade yourself at an elevated position?
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Postby krujones » Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:07 pm

taylorm wrote:Night Of The Living Dead.

Why not just barricade the stairs leading to the second floor, barricade the door leading into the room you're in and then climb out onto the rooftop until help arrives? You're telling me the living dead will a) navigate a flight of stairs b) throw the furniture and shit you've blocked their passage with c) break through the barricaded door and d) squeeze their way through the windowsill? And then NOT stumble off the narrow roof IF they even manage to make it that far? I get not thinking straight in times of crisis, but holy shit. Some of them didn't think twice about barricading themselves in a basement. Why not barricade yourself at an elevated position?


I always wondered why all of them didn't just hide in the attic
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Postby Stormy » Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:00 pm

HOTDOGS_COMINURWAY wrote:
taylorm wrote:
Stormy wrote:The Warriors - when that annoying skinny punk shoots Sirus and then yells "It was the Warriors!", all they had to do was grab the punk, show he had a gun and beat him to death on the spot.

But then there wouldn't be the awesome movie that follows.

To be fair, there was a lot of chaos. Cops showing up, people hauling ass out of there, Sirus shot. Not a lot of time to stop, think and react.



It always bother me that nobody close to him saw him definitely shoot Sirus and handle him right then and there


Yeah, he was hardly subtle. That guy never is.
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