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Postby Czarsy » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:16 pm

Gunman opens fire in a church in Texas. At least 25 killed.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... hurch.html

Get those thoughts and prayers ready, folks!
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Postby t.doomhammer » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:23 pm

On the bright side, it was a church in Texas, which should hit very close to home for the thoughts and prayers crowd. Maybe close to home enough for those stupid fucks to maybe do something about our very broken gun control system.
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Postby The Toxic Avenger » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:34 pm

t.doomhammer wrote:On the bright side, it was a church in Texas, which should hit very close to home for the thoughts and prayers crowd. Maybe close to home enough for those stupid fucks to maybe do something about our very broken gun control system.

I think we both know it's more likely to go in the 'they should have been armed' direction.
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Postby refill » Sun Nov 05, 2017 2:52 pm

Get ready to hear about every republican's thoughts and prayers.
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Postby b andrus » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:01 pm

t.doomhammer wrote:On the bright side, it was a church in Texas, which should hit very close to home for the thoughts and prayers crowd. Maybe close to home enough for those stupid fucks to maybe do something about our very broken gun control system.



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Postby t.doomhammer » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:09 pm

FACEPALM wrote:
t.doomhammer wrote:On the bright side, it was a church in Texas, which should hit very close to home for the thoughts and prayers crowd. Maybe close to home enough for those stupid fucks to maybe do something about our very broken gun control system.



Dude


Yeah?
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Postby The Lowest One » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:11 pm

FACEPALM wrote:
t.doomhammer wrote:On the bright side, it was a church in Texas, which should hit very close to home for the thoughts and prayers crowd. Maybe close to home enough for those stupid fucks to maybe do something about our very broken gun control system.



Dude


Inflammatory, but not wrong.
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Postby bufo alvarius » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:18 pm

nah, nothing will change. that's like saying the something will be done because the festival in vegas that was attacked was a country festival and thus mostly right leaning.
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Postby krujones » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:19 pm

Thoughts and prayers for eternity
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Postby IThinkItsIndecision » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:21 pm

My thought and prayers go out to the victims and their families, but the real problem here is that the preacher and children weren't armed or properly trained in tactics to deal with an active shooter.
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Postby Roofies Pizza » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:38 pm

No matter what, lets just call it terrorism.
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Postby emacs » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:47 pm

refill wrote:Internet says it's this dude:

Probably best not to link to people's Facebook pages based on speculation before a suspect has been officially named.
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Postby refill » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:51 pm

emacs wrote:
refill wrote:Internet says it's this dude:

Probably best not to link to people's Facebook pages based on speculation before a suspect has been officially named.


Fair enough, edited.
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Postby blackapache » Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:57 pm

Waiting for some connection to Bernie Sanders, antifa, 'anti-Trump Facebook pages'.

Also this is fucking heartbreaking-
The unincorporated community has a population that numbers in the low hundreds — the 2000 census was 362, according to the Texas State Historical Association. The preliminary death toll would amount to about 7 percent of the population.
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Postby LIL LEMON!!!!!!!!!! » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:02 pm

blackapache wrote:Also this is fucking heartbreaking-
The unincorporated community has a population that numbers in the low hundreds — the 2000 census was 362, according to the Texas State Historical Association. The preliminary death toll would amount to about 7 percent of the population.


god damn
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Postby RealVile » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:03 pm

blackapache wrote:Waiting for some connection to Bernie Sanders, antifa, 'anti-Trump Facebook pages'.

Also this is fucking heartbreaking-
The unincorporated community has a population that numbers in the low hundreds — the 2000 census was 362, according to the Texas State Historical Association. The preliminary death toll would amount to about 7 percent of the population.

...?
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Postby IThinkItsIndecision » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:07 pm

RealVile wrote:...?

Which part?
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Postby smorgasgeorge » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:09 pm

Some real winners in this thread.
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Postby t.doomhammer » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:19 pm

The Lowest One wrote:
FACEPALM wrote:
t.doomhammer wrote:On the bright side, it was a church in Texas, which should hit very close to home for the thoughts and prayers crowd. Maybe close to home enough for those stupid fucks to maybe do something about our very broken gun control system.



Dude


Inflammatory, but not wrong.


No more inflammatory than anything their side has said on the subject. Those are the same goons who have tried telling us that mass shootings are a small price to pay for all the "freedoms" we get to enjoy and who have refused to do anything other than think and pray real hard about it. I genuinely hope that this, as fucked up as it is, will get people who just kinda shrug and say that's just how things are to really reevaluate their views on American gun culture. This goes beyond having more or less unrestricted access to high powered weapons.
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Postby lala fuck you » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:23 pm

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Postby Adonis » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:38 pm

Awful and horrific scene. RIP all the victims.

Everyone talking about guns, the lack of any real mental health care system in this country is equally in need of the spotlight. Too many crazies with too much access to firearms.
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Postby Waste of Space » Sun Nov 05, 2017 4:42 pm

This is becoming so defeating, I cannot see how things will ever change at this point. Reading through this thread, the amount of desensitization to this stuff is seriously depressing too (ie, first posts ranging from snarky comments to "on the bright side...").
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Postby t.doomhammer » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:28 pm

Waste of Space wrote:This is becoming so defeating, I cannot see how things will ever change at this point. Reading through this thread, the amount of desensitization to this stuff is seriously depressing too (ie, first posts ranging from snarky comments to "on the bright side...").


How the fuck else am I supposed to react to it? I don't see these things stopping any time soon unless the people who are fucking obsessed with unfettered access to guns actually sit down and have a real long think about how that is impacting our country. I'm not glad a bunch of people got shot in church just in case you had any confusion about that.
This unfortunately might be what it takes to get people to finally look at mass shootings as actual domestic terrorism instead of "well shucks, lookit what that there crazy lone wolf done did, how tragic, definitely going to pray for the families of the victims a whole lot".
Who the fuck knows though. It'll probably just turn into InfoWars talking about how it was a false flag operation and the people who survived are going to get harassed as being crisis actors like they do every other fucking time something like this goes down.

Yeah, it's depressing as shit.
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Postby Daytona 500 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:33 pm

Shooter's 26 year old ex-Air Force. Dishonorable discharge three and a half years ago.
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Postby chrischill » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:33 pm

Children are among the deceased, including the 14 year-old daughter of the pastor.
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Postby lala fuck you » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:48 pm

So who's gonna raffle some type of fun?
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Postby refill » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:50 pm

chrischill wrote:Children are among the deceased, including the 14 year-old daughter of the pastor.


Can't wait for "truthers" to call families liars and send them threats.
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Postby Pottymouth » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:51 pm

Posting to extend my thoughts and prayers to all future mass shooting victims.

Just figured I'd get it out of the way now.
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Postby hotdamn » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:57 pm

Crazy how during the press conference right now, everyone says they can't release the name of the suspect... meanwhile CBS has already ran a story with the identity of the guy and his background.
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Postby krujones » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:07 pm

Review Brahs picture went viral again after morons posted his picture as a victim
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Postby Spider Jerusalem » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:12 pm

god damn....why did i read the article about this on the Washington Times.


HoustonGrandma • 35 minutes ago
We did not have this kind of shooting before abortion. We have lost our respect for life.
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Postby NBA Live 2005 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:44 pm

Spider Jerusalem wrote:god damn....why did i read the article about this on the Washington Times.


HoustonGrandma • 35 minutes ago
We did not have this kind of shooting before abortion. We have lost our respect for life.
God bless America.
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Postby LanceUppercut » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:52 pm

I'm still blaming heavy metal music for all this.
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Postby PaulKersey » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:56 pm

Heavy is publishing a lot of unconfirmed info but one bit is that the shooter might have been killed by a churchgoer. Says the guy chased him out of the church, they each got in their vehicles and this dude might have popped him during the chase. That or it was self-inflicted or he was shot by police.

Also the shooter's social media is being scrubbed but he taught Bible school and had his rifle in a profile pic and called it a "bad bitch", thus lending credence to the belief that gun nuts would literally fuck their guns if they could. I am beyond reasoning with anyone on the right at this point.
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Postby t.doomhammer » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:59 pm

Spider Jerusalem wrote:god damn....why did i read the article about this on the Washington Times.


HoustonGrandma • 35 minutes ago
We did not have this kind of shooting before abortion. We have lost our respect for life.


The fucking cognitive dissonance these people have is unreal.
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Postby mindlis » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:06 pm

PaulKersey wrote: Says the guy chased him out of the church, they each got in their vehicles and this dude might have popped him during the chase. That or it was self-inflicted or he was shot by police..


So anything could have happened?
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Postby Brave Captain » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:09 pm

10 bucks says hes gonna be referred to as "depressed" or "having a bad day" or "troubled"
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Postby Spider Jerusalem » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:32 pm

Brave Captain wrote:10 bucks says hes gonna be referred to as "depressed" or "having a bad day" or "troubled"




that seems to be the general consensus of the comments on the washington times article. that and that he must have PTSD since he was in the air force.
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Postby Daytona 500 » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:35 pm

I personally think all of those things are real factors. But they should be reasons why he can't own a gun, or his gun ownership involves jumping through hoops and constant tracking. Not an excuse after he buys one and shoots up a place.
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Postby spsp » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:48 pm

Nothing will happen.
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Postby Brave Captain » Sun Nov 05, 2017 7:50 pm

spsp wrote:Nothing will happen.
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Postby My Tummy is Full » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:04 pm

Brave Captain wrote:
spsp wrote:Nothing will happen.
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Postby Czarsy » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:08 pm

PaulKersey wrote:Heavy is publishing a lot of unconfirmed info but one bit is that the shooter might have been killed by a churchgoer. Says the guy chased him out of the church, they each got in their vehicles and this dude might have popped him during the chase. That or it was self-inflicted or he was shot by police.

CNN is reporting this too. It's the standard situation that gun nuts love to craft after every shooting. "Well, if one of the good guys had a gun...". Their argument is predicated on the fact that these massacres are completely inevitable regardless of legislation and that the only preventative measure to halt them is to just shoot the bad guys yourself... which I just don't buy. A good guy DID have a gun here and this fucking lunatic still killed 25 people in seconds. While it's great that further casualties were averted thanks to the good guy, it doesn't really address the issue that if there were proper safeguards in place when it came to weapons that NO ONE here would have died.

Although there's no point speculating on any of this because as we all know:

My Tummy is Full wrote:
Brave Captain wrote:
spsp wrote:Nothing will happen.


Good luck out there, everybody.
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Postby Killedbyschool » Sun Nov 05, 2017 8:43 pm

This country is a turd circling the drain. Abandon ship.
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Postby Banned in Cincy » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:02 pm


Somebody needs to make another one of these.

And just because there are people who aren't listening doesn't mean we should give up. The majority of NRA members support gun checks, especially for the mentally ill. Imho, what needs to happen is a movement within its members to either get new leadership or just leave and start a new organization (or move to another existing one).

Also, fully agreed with Czarsy on this.
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Postby Excursions » Sun Nov 05, 2017 11:29 pm

Luckily that armed citizen was there to shoot down the perpetrator, it could have been a lot worse. Thoughts and prayers with the families.
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Postby Roofies Pizza » Mon Nov 06, 2017 1:42 am

Spider Jerusalem wrote:
Brave Captain wrote:10 bucks says hes gonna be referred to as "depressed" or "having a bad day" or "troubled"




that seems to be the general consensus of the comments on the washington times article. that and that he must have PTSD since he was in the air force.


PTSD from his uniformed desk-job *eyeroll*
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Postby BeatOffTheBrat » Mon Nov 06, 2017 4:21 am

Hey remember a month ago when we were all like "lets treat these like suicides and not name the perpetrator, so as not to keep legitimizing this fucked 'take everyone with me' attitude these BAYBAYYYYYY dicks have?"

what happened to that

I feel like maybe we should treat any news outlet that focuses on this shit personably responsible for terrorism
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