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Postby BRICK_FLAIR » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:58 am

So I'm in the middle of going back through Ghost in the Shell and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? and realized that generally, a lot of the fiction I've gravitated towards would be considered cyberpunk, and that reading this stuff again 10-15 years later, it's crazy how much less "out there" or futuristic this stuff seems now that everyone has a Dick Tracy watch and shit. Long sentence. Anyway, what do y'all fuck with?

Also, I've never seen Blade Runner because I don't know which of the five million versions to watch.
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Postby BRICK_FLAIR » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:03 pm

Oh and fuck the Matrix 2 animatrix is tight tho
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Postby almosthome » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:23 pm

Seeing Akira when I was like 13 had a huge impact me. Still haven't watched Ghost in the Shell, the only anime I've really got into seriously was Evangelion.

I don't know if it counts as cyberpunk, but Hard Boiled by Frank Miller and Geof Darrow is like my art bible. Made me want to become a comic book artist.
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Postby BRICK_FLAIR » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:30 pm

Ghost in the Shell is like 90 minutes and not a bad adaptation of the comic. Very streamlined, but I feel like it loses a lot of the cooler deep shit. Still very rad. I think it's on Starz right now. It's usually streaming somewhere.

Hard Boiled def counts I'd think. I first encountered it when I was like 8 and couldn't believe what I was looking at. Darrow is the man.
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Postby BRICK_FLAIR » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:35 pm

The whole high tech-low life aspect of this shit is wild to me tho because that's the world a lot of people live in now. Obviously not to the extremes explored in most of this stuff, but we're really not far from it.
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Postby guttertech » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:51 pm

never got into the manga or series but the first Ghost in the Shell film is pretty much perfect.

also pretty obvious but Neuromancer is great.
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Postby BRICK_FLAIR » Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:56 pm

The movie is based on a self contained volume that actually just got re-released in a new edition with original right to left reading presentation and Shirow's sound effects.

Unfortunately is also cuts the sex scene but what can you do
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Postby Stoner Witch » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:04 pm

This is my shit. Snow Crash will be reality soon enough.

Blade Runner is decent, but doesn't do the book much justice. I kinda view BR is like a comic one-shot of the much more immersive and interesting world/story of the book.

We now openly fetishize tech in ways that were considered ludicrous 10-20 years ago. Motherfuckers are killing each other over iPhones and we treat tech CEOs like they are a new species of superhuman. It's only a matter of time until people have digital storage in their body and theirs black markets for smuggling data in your spinal SD card etc. Humans are weak and lazy and we will always use tech to make a quick buck or derive some cheap pleasure instead of using it to advance "society."
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Postby IThinkItsIndecision » Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:20 pm

I'm just waiting on corporate extraterritoriality. That when it's gunna be real lit.
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Postby keep_it_real » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:32 pm

hell yeah, I was a huge William Gibson fan as a teen.

Also loved Snow Crash.
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Postby Czarsy » Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:35 pm

Neuromancer is really cool.
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Postby othernewest1 » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:05 pm

not the same genre exactly but i was thinking the same thing about fahrenheit 451, about " how much less "out there" or futuristic this stuff seems". and with all the talk and rocketing sales of 1984, it does feel pretty dystopian out chea
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Postby reddfused » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:28 pm

Have you read Infomocracy? It's not high tech low lifes but it's got a bunch of five-minutes-into-the-future tech shit that's real interesting, besides the fact that it's backdrop is an interesting musing on a google run global micro/macro democracy. I'm translating it to my first language and even though it could be better written it's still a really damn good book.

I wish I knew more but I've read a few books outside of the classics I could recommend.
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Postby reddfused » Fri Mar 17, 2017 3:30 pm

Also, if you liked GiTS, GiTS Stand Alone Complex and SAC 2nd Gig are awesome. Innocence, Arise Alternative Architechture e New Movie not so much.
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Postby BRICK_FLAIR » Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:22 pm

reddfused wrote:Have you read Infomocracy? It's not high tech low lifes but it's got a bunch of five-minutes-into-the-future tech shit that's real interesting, besides the fact that it's backdrop is an interesting musing on a google run global micro/macro democracy. I'm translating it to my first language and even though it could be better written it's still a really damn good book


This looks really interesting. Thanks for the heads up
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Postby BeatOffTheBrat » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:15 pm

Transmetropolitan is my fave shitty future comic, I like how it depicted body mod cultures and the concept of body integrity (and things such as advertising then violating it)
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Postby Bomb Bomb Diddy!!! » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:41 pm

Czarsy wrote:Neuromancer is really cool.


Ghost in the Shell is great but I think the show is even better.

Idk if its considered cyberpunk but Serial Experiments Lain is my favorite anime ever and if you havent seen it you should, its super heady and trippy late 90s anime.
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Postby shanks » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:31 pm

Bomb Bomb Diddy!!! wrote:
Czarsy wrote:Neuromancer is really cool.


Ghost in the Shell is great but I think the show is even better.

Idk if its considered cyberpunk but Serial Experiments Lain is my favorite anime ever and if you havent seen it you should, its super heady and trippy late 90s anime.


Was just about to recommend SEL. It totally counts. The soundtrack is wild too
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Postby Bomb Bomb Diddy!!! » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:38 pm

shanks wrote:
Bomb Bomb Diddy!!! wrote:
Czarsy wrote:Neuromancer is really cool.


Ghost in the Shell is great but I think the show is even better.

Idk if its considered cyberpunk but Serial Experiments Lain is my favorite anime ever and if you havent seen it you should, its super heady and trippy late 90s anime.


Was just about to recommend SEL. It totally counts. The soundtrack is wild too

First time I saw it was late af in one sitting and it totally blew my mind. Its just so ambient and strange but such a mystery at first.
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Postby HOTDOGS_COMINURWAY » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:44 pm

SIN was pretty cool
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Postby fuck lambgoat » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:58 pm

I dont know what cyberpunk is, but usually the fiction that moves us most is for a reason. Like film noir throughout WWII. If you're super into it, there's probably a good reason it's worth analyzing.
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Postby BRICK_FLAIR » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:07 am

fuck lambgoat wrote:I dont know what cyberpunk is


Cyberpunk is a subgenre of science fiction in a future setting that tends to focus on society as "high tech low life" featuring advanced technological and scientific achievements, such as information technology and cybernetics, juxtaposed with a degree of breakdown or radical change in the social order.

Cyberpunk plots often center on conflict among artificial intelligences, hackers, and megacorporations, and tend to be set in a near-future Earth
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Postby lifejuice » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:19 am

Love this stuff
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Postby dyna-soar » Sat Mar 18, 2017 12:56 am

my uncle gave me a badly dubbed VHS copy of akira when i was 13 (i'm almost 30 now). it probably had a bigger influence on my life than any other medium.
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Postby Marcabre back from dead » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:06 am

I just started getting into cyberpunk probably about two weeks ago. I have always been into dystopians but never really delved into the genre until recently. Besides Akria what are everyones favorites (things outside of movies especially)? I have been toying with the idea of writing some cyberpunk short stories and putting them into podcasts and would like to get more reference material to get a voice.
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Postby fuck lambgoat » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:42 am

BRICK_FLAIR wrote:
fuck lambgoat wrote:I dont know what cyberpunk is


Cyberpunk is a subgenre of science fiction in a future setting that tends to focus on society as "high tech low life" featuring advanced technological and scientific achievements, such as information technology and cybernetics, juxtaposed with a degree of breakdown or radical change in the social order.

Cyberpunk plots often center on conflict among artificial intelligences, hackers, and megacorporations, and tend to be set in a near-future Earth

that sounds cool as hell. posting.
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Postby lifejuice » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:56 am

Marcabre back from dead wrote:I just started getting into cyberpunk probably about two weeks ago. I have always been into dystopians but never really delved into the genre until recently. Besides Akria what are everyones favorites (things outside of movies especially)? I have been toying with the idea of writing some cyberpunk short stories and putting them into podcasts and would like to get more reference material to get a voice.

Transmetropolitan
Ghost in the Shell
Neuromancer
Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep/Blade Runner
Johnny Mnemonic (the movie is hilarious)
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Postby Party Foul » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:18 pm

Ghost in the Shell the movie is incredible
Ghost in the Shell the Manga is incredible
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex was hard for me to get into after being a devotee of the movie but i finally watched in last year and i was really really pleased with it

Akira was the first Anime i ever saw and i credit it with exposing me to a life changing level of cool

Along with Philip K Dick, William Gibson may be THE one to thank for all of the cyberpunk shit out there ( unfortunatly also Steampunk), that sprawl trilogy starting with Neuromancer is going to be a treat to anyone who has not read it yet and if you are not a "reader" that may be the book to begin it all with.

Blade Runner is a film masterwork and though it is not based on Gibsons work it pulls off the world that Gibson describes in the Sprawl trilogy near perfectly

The Matrix is essentially Ghost in the Shell and Neuromancer

Do Andriods Dream of Elecric Sheep is very rad but people should read 'A Scanner Darkly' and 'Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said'
if they want to take a good bite into Philip K Dick

also the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Frank Miller's Ronin, Dark Night Returns and Hardboiled are obviously all incredible too

Johnny Mnemonic is Gibson as well
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Postby Party Foul » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:20 pm

forgot about Robocop, Marshal Law and Judge Dredd

as well as the artwork of Moebius
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Postby Party Foul » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:24 pm

and here is Timothy Leary talking about Neuromancer
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Postby BRICK_FLAIR » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:38 pm

Moebius pen game so strong. Almost overwhelming to look at. Incredible stuff.
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Postby Waste of Space » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:39 pm

Bomb Bomb Diddy!!! wrote:
shanks wrote:
Bomb Bomb Diddy!!! wrote:
Czarsy wrote:Neuromancer is really cool.


Ghost in the Shell is great but I think the show is even better.

Idk if its considered cyberpunk but Serial Experiments Lain is my favorite anime ever and if you havent seen it you should, its super heady and trippy late 90s anime.


Was just about to recommend SEL. It totally counts. The soundtrack is wild too

First time I saw it was late af in one sitting and it totally blew my mind. Its just so ambient and strange but such a mystery at first.

I watched SEL when I was about 14 and it made a huge impression on me. These posts have tempted me to rewatch it since I haven't seen it in around 15 years. Next to Evangelion, that was the only other anime series I ever cared for.
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Postby BRICK_FLAIR » Sat Mar 18, 2017 1:48 pm

I'm only half way through this but it's good. Old City Blues

https://issuu.com/juntaro/docs/ocb_vol1
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Postby Frozendirt » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:18 pm

Shozin Fukui movies

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Postby lifejuice » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:39 pm

The tetsuo movies are great too

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Postby Pottymouth » Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:51 pm

Cyberpunk is great. I recommend watching Hardware.
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Postby Bomb Bomb Diddy!!! » Sat Mar 18, 2017 4:46 pm

Ive only read Neuromancer and Coint Zero but been meaning to dip into other Gibson
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Postby Latenightloser » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:08 pm

Posting, I'm super into cyberpunk literature. I'll post a bunch of stuff beyond the normal Gibson stuff when I have time.
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Postby Party Foul » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:17 pm

Bomb Bomb Diddy!!! wrote:Ive only read Neuromancer and Coint Zero but been meaning to dip into other Gibson


Mona Lisa Overdrive is the 3rd in that trilogy

Bubblegum Crisis and Appleseed are other rad manga/anime in that sphere
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Postby Roofies Pizza » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:35 pm

Stoner Witch wrote:This is my shit. Snow Crash will be reality soon enough.
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In a sense, snow crash is already reality. Such a sick book.
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Postby Thieves Dont » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:57 pm

For Blade Runner, I would check out the Final Cut or the international version.

The team behind The Witcher are coming out with an open world Cyber Punk game.
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Postby Latenightloser » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:40 pm

Thieves Dont wrote:For Blade Runner, I would check out the Final Cut or the international version.

The team behind The Witcher are coming out with an open world Cyber Punk game.


This would be awesome. Anyone play the Shadowrun RPG that came out a while back?
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Postby Latenightloser » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:46 pm

Semi related, anyone remember Billy Idol's album "Cyberpunk"?

https://youtu.be/lx2fZU5USus?list=PLqV5 ... XXd0R-aerv
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Postby IThinkItsIndecision » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:51 pm

Latenightloser wrote:
Thieves Dont wrote:For Blade Runner, I would check out the Final Cut or the international version.

The team behind The Witcher are coming out with an open world Cyber Punk game.


This would be awesome. Anyone play the Shadowrun RPG that came out a while back?

I've mentioned it.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=912237&hilit=+dragons&p=3633683#p3633683

we'd need 5 to 7 people.
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Postby Latenightloser » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:59 pm

dank wrote:
Latenightloser wrote:
Thieves Dont wrote:For Blade Runner, I would check out the Final Cut or the international version.

The team behind The Witcher are coming out with an open world Cyber Punk game.


This would be awesome. Anyone play the Shadowrun RPG that came out a while back?

I've mentioned it.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=912237&hilit=+dragons&p=3633683#p3633683

we'd need 5 to 7 people.


I was specifically talking about a video game version of Shadowrun. I used to play the paper (?) version a bunch when I was a teenager along with a lot of GURPS shit. With video conferencing and stuff like that, is there a platform that lends itself well to RPG's? I still have all of my Shadowrun/AD&D/Battletech/Other misc. stuff somewhere packed up at my Mom's place. I'd for sure be into playing if there were some people serious about it.
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Postby Bomb Bomb Diddy!!! » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:13 pm

Party Foul wrote:
Bomb Bomb Diddy!!! wrote:Ive only read Neuromancer and Coint Zero but been meaning to dip into other Gibson


Mona Lisa Overdrive is the 3rd in that trilogy

Bubblegum Crisis and Appleseed are other rad manga/anime in that sphere

Yeah I have Mona Lisa Overdrive just havent read it
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Postby Latenightloser » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:16 pm

Bruce Sterling wrote a really good non-fiction book called "The Hacker Crackdown" that anyone who's interested in Cyberpunk should check out. Really good look back at how things were and how they became to be now. I'm also super surprised no one mentioned him yet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hacker_Crackdown
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Postby on knives » Sun Mar 19, 2017 2:07 am

i fucking love serial experiments lain soooooooooo much
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