"Cro-Mags guitarist Parris Mayhew talks a TON of shit"

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Postby seminar i & ii » Wed May 14, 2014 4:03 pm

dude goes in on basically everyone:

PARRIS MAYHEW UNLOADS ON THE HISTORY OF CRO-MAGS

http://noisey.vice.com/blog/parris-mayhew-cro-mags-interview

John can play with his fake line-up of nobodies for 10 years. AJ can tell anyone he’s a Cro-Mags member, but he will never be. He had nothing to do with its creation, its inspiration, and the actual discovery of the Cro-Mags. And that means the music, the songs.
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Postby xtimx » Wed May 14, 2014 4:19 pm

Oh cool another Cro Mag member who is an egomaniacal jerkoff.

Can't wait to listen to BLOOD4PAPA.
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Postby seminar i & ii » Wed May 14, 2014 4:32 pm

got a real Greg Ginn vibe from this whole interview
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Postby illiam » Wed May 14, 2014 4:37 pm

i have the weirdest boner right now i love reading this shit
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Postby theb00box » Wed May 14, 2014 4:44 pm

Leeway opened for us in the mid 90s. Don't really remember their music. They were not my taste. And as far as inseparable, I never heard that. They were way down on the totem pole at the time. A cling-on band that's why AJ is now playing my music instead if his own.


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Postby recent vinyl acquisitions » Wed May 14, 2014 4:50 pm

BLOOD4PAPA :smt005

I think his new band(that will never see the light of day)should be called KINGFUCKINGTUT!
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Postby xFarsidex » Wed May 14, 2014 5:08 pm

Wow, that's some serious shit. This just took number one on my list of priorities. Gotta call in sick tomorrow, this issue needs some serious overturning. FUCK, I won't be able to sleep now.
THANKS A LOT, Mr. Parris.
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Postby Mattciq » Wed May 14, 2014 5:08 pm

Are you still listening to your old records?
No, I never listen to them, ever. Too many bad feelings and a pain over what could have been. I do listen to Revenge, despite Harley’s voice (a bad reminder), I do like that one.

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Postby xFarsidex » Wed May 14, 2014 5:22 pm

I don't know much about da Mags, but every time I read something about them it's like reading about a bunch of bitchy whinos who can't get over their dirty, muddy, soggy, smelly divorce they had thirty years ago. And everyone is always "Like a Cro-Mag" and "Be a Cro-Mag" when all it really means is that your a butthurt old guy who can't put a lid on it and stop the bleeding. Like watching that drunk couple bicker and fight in public every day.
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Postby echoesofasummer » Wed May 14, 2014 5:23 pm

Harley doesn't have long to live so what difference would it make if he died in jail as long as he was loved again.


Does any one know what this is about?
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Postby Hungry like the wolf » Wed May 14, 2014 5:34 pm

echoesofasummer wrote:
Harley doesn't have long to live so what difference would it make if he died in jail as long as he was loved again.


Does any one know what this is about?



I wasn't sure if that was a Harley's old thing or Harley got some problems goin on. Either way such a self-centered jerk off interview.

BLOOD4PAPA is a really really good band name though.
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Postby xFarsidex » Wed May 14, 2014 5:34 pm

echoesofasummer wrote:
Harley doesn't have long to live so what difference would it make if he died in jail as long as he was loved again.


Does any one know what this is about?


That whole part just makes Harley and him sound like a bunch of crazies. Maybe those two and RTL could form a band and make sure good ol' New York gets resurrected again. The way it should be without all these outsiders.
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Postby The Toxic Avenger » Wed May 14, 2014 5:57 pm

Glad he's talking shit on the new 'Mags, but he comes off as a real douche.
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Postby True Rockin' Toe Sucker » Wed May 14, 2014 5:58 pm

Lots of good stuff here. Interesting comments on the demo. Leeway was forgettable (at best), Harley's voice sucks, and despite recent revisionism Alpha Omega and all that other shit is garbage.
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Postby medusa » Wed May 14, 2014 6:08 pm

Haha this guy sounds like the biggest bullshitter.
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Postby terminalnation » Wed May 14, 2014 6:10 pm

James k wrote:His explanation about the Webster Hall incident is insane.


True, but he is talking about Harley.
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Postby feeding_frenzy » Wed May 14, 2014 6:16 pm

I just listened to REVENGE for the first time today because of this thread, instant disappointement.
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Postby Smashedbox 20 » Wed May 14, 2014 6:24 pm

Good read. Very articulate Mr. Parris is.
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Postby terminalnation » Wed May 14, 2014 6:27 pm

James k wrote:
terminalnation wrote:
James k wrote:His explanation about the Webster Hall incident is insane.


True, but he is talking about Harley.

Nah, I mean... I believe it. I believe him when he says Harley went in there to kill JJ and regain his legend / kill the Cro-Mags. That's what makes it so insane.


For sure.
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Postby Dodson » Wed May 14, 2014 6:36 pm

LOL at the comments that Leeway was a "cling-on band".
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Postby Earth Lessons » Wed May 14, 2014 6:46 pm

So wild
I could see the realization in his face. He realized he was not the boss when we were together and he had gotten use to being the boss but now he realized he was just keeping the king’s throne warm for him
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Postby gregor samsa » Wed May 14, 2014 6:48 pm

OF COURSE this is on noisey
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Postby nosetackle » Wed May 14, 2014 7:03 pm

i don't think anyone forgets harley was the driving force behind the mags(he had written songs for AOQ before he even met parris), but even parris admits harley was such an asshole he lost the fans and lost the battle vs JJ as far as public perception went. when parris and harley did revenge, no one gave a shit.

as far as parris goes, he has some fair points but everyone in this band is such a bullshitter it is hard to really believe anything they all say. this interview is probably half true and half lies or embellishments. as far as the 20K copies of revenge being sold, i highly doubt that as well. i met a woman in L.A. who worked with musicians and made merch for them. she said she worked with parris and that he was insane and had a huge ego and eventually accused her of all of the same stuff he is basically throwing out here with the other mags. the best part was she said he had a garage full of revenge CDs he couldn't get rid of.
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Postby Ben B » Wed May 14, 2014 7:15 pm

Real musicians are the worst.
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Postby Sorley Boy » Wed May 14, 2014 7:21 pm

It seems like Parris has always had a reputation among older guys for being condescending and is just generally not liked. That being I'm sure it's frustrating working with people like JJ and Harley Flanagan. And he's right that the AOQ demos are mostly better.
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Postby Sorley Boy » Wed May 14, 2014 7:24 pm

Also

Like when John and I screamed at each other when he wanted to chant “Hare Krishna” over the fast part of “Life Of My Own.”


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Postby Waste of Space » Wed May 14, 2014 7:24 pm

The Cro-mags drama takes the worst parts of hardcore to the dumbest extremes- bunch of 40+ men acting like gossiping highschool kids in a popularity contest.
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Postby xtimx » Wed May 14, 2014 7:27 pm

Would the Cro Mags have gotten so much attention if they weren't singing about Krishna? I love the good records but I always thought they got way more attention cause people thought it was so crazy that these fucked up street kids sang about a weird cult religion.
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Postby ian geiger » Wed May 14, 2014 7:27 pm

Ben B wrote:Real musicians are the worst.
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Postby Stormy » Wed May 14, 2014 7:37 pm

He can talk all the shit he wants. He's not milking a batch of songs from 1985, or writing a book about how meat is murder, or stabbing other band members, or basing his entire existence living in the past. He had some shit to get out of his system and he did. Good for him, still my fave Cro Mags member.
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Postby zombie_jesus » Wed May 14, 2014 7:45 pm

Will you adapt his autobiography, Evolution of a Cro-magnon, to the screen if John asked you? [Laughs]

Funny, but I certainly have not read it. I am an avid reader, but I couldn't imagine reading a book by an author who never read a book himself.


That made me laugh
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Postby cobralucha » Wed May 14, 2014 7:50 pm

beneath the sand wrote:never understood the fascination with this band. do people actually listen to age of quarrel and think, "this shit is really good"?

bunch of homophobic, racist douchebags embracing goofy ass Krishna shit.


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Postby vivaXhate » Wed May 14, 2014 8:00 pm

That Interview was not that bad honestly, he finally spoke his mind about it. A lot of things made sense

I personally love Mackie's drumming though. Glad he didn't talk shit directly at Craig Ahead, because that dude stands on his own and playing with the "cro-mags" is basically his side project not his livelihood.
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Postby conradmurray » Wed May 14, 2014 8:29 pm

echoesofasummer wrote:
Harley doesn't have long to live so what difference would it make if he died in jail as long as he was loved again.


Does any one know what this is about?

He doesn't drink healthy juices and eats meat.
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Postby scrubber » Wed May 14, 2014 8:29 pm

So a new Cro Mags album is actually possible?
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Postby Meatsauce » Wed May 14, 2014 8:36 pm

unless parris stabs an asian guy im not going to care
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Postby Dodson » Wed May 14, 2014 8:52 pm

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Postby distort me » Wed May 14, 2014 9:13 pm

I love reading these kinds of interviews.
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Postby BRICK_FLAIR » Wed May 14, 2014 10:10 pm

Stormy wrote:He can talk all the shit he wants. He's not milking a batch of songs from 1985, or writing a book about how meat is murder, or stabbing other band members, or basing his entire existence living in the past. He had some shit to get out of his system and he did. Good for him, still my fave Cro Mags member.


So on-point.

Solid interview.
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Postby Jake D » Wed May 14, 2014 10:46 pm

I love this. All the stories and insane point of views related to this band will never get old.
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Postby Iconoclast » Thu May 15, 2014 1:50 am

ambrrr wrote:Would you guys say that Cro-Mags is the most famous hardcore band of all time or nah


most infamous maybe
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Postby Hungry like the wolf » Thu May 15, 2014 1:52 am

ambrrr wrote:Would you guys say that Cro-Mags is the most famous hardcore band of all time or nah



Black Flag is way bigger. I don't really ever think of them as a hardcore band(not that it matters if anyone does i know they do) but you could say The Misfits or Dead Kennedy's.
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Postby Iconoclast » Thu May 15, 2014 2:04 am

Interesting interview, but I don't care what Parris Mayhew says, Near Death Experience is sick.
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Postby Dead Cell » Thu May 15, 2014 3:02 am

Stormy wrote:He can talk all the shit he wants. He's not milking a batch of songs from 1985, or writing a book about how meat is murder, or stabbing other band members, or basing his entire existence living in the past. He had some shit to get out of his system and he did. Good for him, still my fave Cro Mags member.


Beat me to it. Everyone in the classic line up are ridiculous people, but I am more inclined to take Parris's take on things over JJ or Harley.

Cro-Mags beef never gets old.
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Postby clubclub » Thu May 15, 2014 3:21 am

cro-mags are still the most entertaining
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Postby jds » Thu May 15, 2014 6:53 am

I've only seen the Cromags once, in March of '98 at tramps with Burn, Civ, Sick of it All, Straight Ahead, Madball, VOD, 25 TA Life, Crown of Thornz, Both Worlds, (I Think Shutdown- we got there after they played), Biohazard and Maximum Penalty. For some reason MP played after all the other bands I listed and we left as they were starting because we were all wrecked.

The Line up was JJ, Mackie, Doug Holland, scott from the spudmonsters and I have no idea on bass. They were good. I've really felt no need to see them again, however.
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Postby xFarsidex » Thu May 15, 2014 7:09 am

James k wrote:I mean, I'll give him credit for one thing, even though he continuously mentions the fact that Harley is a bastard, he never takes away the Cro-Mags from him. People do gloss over this fact, but at the end of the day, the Cro-Mags were always Parris / Harley. In the whole JJ propaganda machine I think people do forget that. It is unfortunate.


Even I know that AOQ is mainly Harley's creation and I don't even like da Mags.
Imagine having put out one of the most influential records of a genre and spending the rest of your life becoming a laughing stock. Attention is a hell of a drug.
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Postby Oh word? » Thu May 15, 2014 7:17 am

It's funny the whole "Will you write another cro-mags record?" Thing got talked about. I'm pretty sure JJ was laughing on the inside because he got Matt Henderson and Hoya to write it. Two musicians who have written more classics than just AOQ.
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Postby xFarsidex » Thu May 15, 2014 7:19 am

ambrrr wrote:Would you guys say that Cro-Mags is the most famous hardcore band of all time or nah


Famous for the dirty laundry and worst follow-up discography.

I'd love to see an SNL sketch of a rehearsal session based on Mr. Parris' description.
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Postby markct » Thu May 15, 2014 8:28 am

jds wrote:I've only seen the Cromags once, in March of '98 at tramps with Burn, Civ, Sick of it All, Straight Ahead, Madball, VOD, 25 TA Life, Crown of Thornz, Both Worlds, (I Think Shutdown- we got there after they played), Biohazard and Maximum Penalty. For some reason MP played after all the other bands I listed and we left as they were starting because we were all wrecked.

The Line up was JJ, Mackie, Doug Holland, scott from the spudmonsters and I have no idea on bass. They were good. I've really felt no need to see them again, however.


The hardcore against hunger show? Why does everyone think 25 ta life played

They did not.

I believe they were on the flier. But they didn't play that day
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